- Gambling Vs Forex Trading Platforms
- Gambling Vs Forex Trading Forex
- Gambling Vs Forex Trading Strategy
- Gambling Vs Forex Trading Platform
- Sports Betting Vs Forex Trading
This site is designed to give you the best information when it comes to trading currencies. But although forex trading makes up 60% of my personal income, the other 40% comes from other investing. This includes stocks and shares but also a growing part comes from sports betting, we even have a separate website that talks about this in detail called Ghost Betting Tips.
When I tell people I have £50,000 across a number of sports betting accounts their first reaction is pure shock. Usually followed by the 'How can you risk that much money?' The truth? If you keep correct bankroll management, all investing is easy over the long term. Whether that be stocks and shares, forex, sports or anything else. So today I'm going to run through some of my personal opinions on the pros and cons of forex vs sports. I even have a twitter dedicated to only this.
At the same time, I can tell you that Forex trading is Haram, yes Forex can be 100% haram if you are driven by greed and gambling sensation for a quick catch. Trading Forex is Halal if you treat trading as a business where you calculate your risk of investment with proper risk/reward expectations. Welcome to FXGears.com's Reddit Forex Trading Community! Here you can converse about trading ideas, strategies, trading psychology, and nearly everything in between! - We also have one of the largest forex chatrooms online! - /r/Forex is the official subreddit of FXGears.com, a trading forum run by professional traders.
Table of Contents
Forex Trading Pros:
Back testing a strategy is very easy – Luckily we have a crazy amount of data from the currency markets. They have been around for year and it is very easy to get information about previous prices, structure highs, news and everything in-between. As a result if you come up with a trading strategy. It is very easy to see if you would have made a profit if you traded this in the past. This means you can essentially predict the future (by using the results of the past.)
Limits – There are very few limits to trading forex. You simply have to set up a trading account and then get going. There aren't any limits to the maximum you can make on a trade. If you are following correct forex trading principles then even if you have 100 million in your trading account you should still only be trading 1 million per trade and hence the currencies won't fluctuate just due to your investment.
Forex Trading Cons:
Tax – You have to pay tax on all your profits. Like a business this means you have to aquire the funds to start
Starting Capital – Probably the biggest issue to trading forex. As the spreads and pip movements are so small you will need a relatively large bankroll to become a profitable trader. Even if you get leverage at 10/1 you will still need a starting capital of £10,000+. This is one of the reasons I'm so against demo trading accounts. But that's a rant so I won't get started!
Strategies – Building the perfect trading strategy takes a lot of time. Back testing through previous years also takes a very long time. The issue with the strategy/system element is traders move around and become too aggressive with their trading strategies. When they fail or blow all their bankroll, suddenly its the strategies fault and not the fact you were putting 15% of your bankroll on every trade… Bankroll management is king.
Gambling Vs Forex Trading Platforms
Sports Betting Pros:
No TAX – Wow this is a big one for me. In the UK you don't pay tax on sports betting winnings. I know in the US and other countries this isn't the case. But if you are seriously making a lot of money then you might want to consider one of the tax havens, that goes for any investment earnings. Paying less tax is something I have been looking into for years. Originally having a business and paying 20-50% tax on earnings was hard enough. Nowadays with investing its down around 18%. But with sports betting you pay 0% (in the UK at least).
More hands off – It's a lot less time intensive than forex trading. Sports betting is more geared around value for specific odds. However you calculate that value, whether you have a hunch (not recommended) or do statistical analysis and back-test results based on previous data (recommended). Once a model is created this is very hands off. You can simply bet where you see value and leave the results to play out.
'Inside Information' – In other types of trading inside information is illegal. People go to prison for decades for trading with inside information. It is a crime. BUT when it comes to sports betting, it seems the more you know the better. Why punish someone when all they have done is found out a start player isn't playing before the bookies adjust their prices? Or that there is going to be a storm in the middle of a football match, making it much more likely that less points are scored and hence the under total points becomes the best play. But the most important element is that individuals 'tipsters' (I hate that word) can give you plays in return for cash. Now you have to be incredibly careful with these people! BUT if you follow the most reliable tipsters you can make 500% ROI per year and that's no exaggeration!
Sports Betting Cons:
Regulation – There are lots of regulations around where you can place bets. For example in the UK I cannot use Pinnacle or a number of other large sportsbooks. In the USA as previously mentioned I believe you have to pay tax on your winnings too and in some states sports betting is straight up illegal, so check the regulations before you get started.
Low Limits & The dreaded 'exceeds maximum bet' – Unlike forex trading, when you make a bet/trade you are making it with the bookie itself. This means that as your bankroll grows you are more likely to be flagged as a very good sports trader. This means you are more likely to have limits on how much you can bet per event. This depends on the size of the event. For example the maximum bet on the superbowl is over 1 million for almost all sportsbooks. But the maximum bet for a small soccer game in league 2 would probably only be £500 in most places. Bigger events have higher limits as the lines are more carefully calculated, meaning the bookies have a higher degree of confidence and hence will accept larger bets. If you are with a sportsbook or bookie that says 'exceeds maximum bet' for a specific result then it is probably time to move. This means they are on to your smart betting and don't want you to take any money from them!
Conclusion
Personally I love both sports and forex trading. I will never stop one for another and I will be doing them both for years and years to come. But spreading 'risk' and having some diversity is great. Back-testing sports betting strategies to see how much you would have made in a season is very similar to back-testing a forex trading strategy to see if your strategy is profitable. My biggest piece of advice would be don't just rush into any type of trading. Build a strategy. Build your bankroll. Decide your bankroll management strategy. Good luck. Remember to check out our beginner ultimate guide and our free ebook for your forex trading introduction.
Tom is the owner of Elite Forex Trading. A website that provides beginner tips, trainings, reviews and strategies to help newbies get started making money in the forex markets.
The number of Youths joining the Betting wagon has skyrocketed in the recent past. This may be attributed to the crushing unemployment levels and the thirst for quick cash. While I am a firm beleiver in exploting all money making schemes, I am abit hesitant to join the band wagon. True, I ave ‘invested' in sports afew times and lost more than I won but that is a story for another day. Question is, Is there another way for millennial out there to invest their hard earned money apart from Betting.
Forex Trading (FX) is one such alternative investiment opportunityies that not only promises high returns, but also Works. Let us dispense with the definations first. A standard Dictionary defines Forex as a form of Investiment and sports Betting as a form of Gambling. The same dictionary defines Investing as to puting (money) to use, by purchase or expenditure, in something offering profitable returns, especially interest or income. The same dictionary defines 'gamble'as follows: To play at any game of chance for stakes. To stake or risk money, or anything of value, on the outcome of something involving chance; bet; wager.
Both forex trading and sports betting could be really lucrative, and they both have their fair shares of upsides and downsides. However, they remain parallel ventures that are distinctly different from each other. With that in mind, let's now look at the differences between forex trading and sports betting:
a) As a forex trader, how much profit you would make hinges largely on your skills, abilities, and understanding of how everything works in the foreign exchange market. It takes time to master all these, but you will make more profit as you learn more.
Gambling Vs Forex Trading Forex
In sports betting however, your profits are not dependent on your experience or skills. In fact, there are really no skills to master. In reality, your profit depends on factors that you cannot control, such as the morale and performance of the teams you have tipped to win a match.
b) In forex trading, you can opt out of the market when market factors seem unfavorable. This is a good tactic to prevent huge losses. And you can as well enter the market again once market indicators show positive signals. However in sports betting, you cannot opt out of a bet after a match has started (even though you can predict the outcome of a match from the starting tempo sometimes).
So, even if you are seeing signs that you will lose your money, you can no longer opt out of a bet once the match has started or once it has reached half time (depending on the rules laid down by your betting agency).
c) Forex trading is not time bound. You can enter and exit the market at irregular intervals as you wish. Some forex traders buy and sell within few minutes, while others may hold on to their purchase for as long as 24 hours or more.
Gambling Vs Forex Trading Strategy
In retrospect, the time frame for a sports bet deal is just the duration of a match (90 minutes in the case of a soccer match). So you have to wait patiently until after the match to know if you if you will end up with a profit or a loss.
d) Forex trading brings results that are proportionate with your knowledge of market analysis. Highly experienced forex traders hardly lose their funds. And when they do, it's always very minimal.
- Gambling Vs Forex Trading Platforms
- Gambling Vs Forex Trading Forex
- Gambling Vs Forex Trading Strategy
- Gambling Vs Forex Trading Platform
- Sports Betting Vs Forex Trading
This site is designed to give you the best information when it comes to trading currencies. But although forex trading makes up 60% of my personal income, the other 40% comes from other investing. This includes stocks and shares but also a growing part comes from sports betting, we even have a separate website that talks about this in detail called Ghost Betting Tips.
When I tell people I have £50,000 across a number of sports betting accounts their first reaction is pure shock. Usually followed by the 'How can you risk that much money?' The truth? If you keep correct bankroll management, all investing is easy over the long term. Whether that be stocks and shares, forex, sports or anything else. So today I'm going to run through some of my personal opinions on the pros and cons of forex vs sports. I even have a twitter dedicated to only this.
At the same time, I can tell you that Forex trading is Haram, yes Forex can be 100% haram if you are driven by greed and gambling sensation for a quick catch. Trading Forex is Halal if you treat trading as a business where you calculate your risk of investment with proper risk/reward expectations. Welcome to FXGears.com's Reddit Forex Trading Community! Here you can converse about trading ideas, strategies, trading psychology, and nearly everything in between! - We also have one of the largest forex chatrooms online! - /r/Forex is the official subreddit of FXGears.com, a trading forum run by professional traders.
Table of Contents
Forex Trading Pros:
Back testing a strategy is very easy – Luckily we have a crazy amount of data from the currency markets. They have been around for year and it is very easy to get information about previous prices, structure highs, news and everything in-between. As a result if you come up with a trading strategy. It is very easy to see if you would have made a profit if you traded this in the past. This means you can essentially predict the future (by using the results of the past.)
Limits – There are very few limits to trading forex. You simply have to set up a trading account and then get going. There aren't any limits to the maximum you can make on a trade. If you are following correct forex trading principles then even if you have 100 million in your trading account you should still only be trading 1 million per trade and hence the currencies won't fluctuate just due to your investment.
Forex Trading Cons:
Tax – You have to pay tax on all your profits. Like a business this means you have to aquire the funds to start
Starting Capital – Probably the biggest issue to trading forex. As the spreads and pip movements are so small you will need a relatively large bankroll to become a profitable trader. Even if you get leverage at 10/1 you will still need a starting capital of £10,000+. This is one of the reasons I'm so against demo trading accounts. But that's a rant so I won't get started!
Strategies – Building the perfect trading strategy takes a lot of time. Back testing through previous years also takes a very long time. The issue with the strategy/system element is traders move around and become too aggressive with their trading strategies. When they fail or blow all their bankroll, suddenly its the strategies fault and not the fact you were putting 15% of your bankroll on every trade… Bankroll management is king.
Gambling Vs Forex Trading Platforms
Sports Betting Pros:
No TAX – Wow this is a big one for me. In the UK you don't pay tax on sports betting winnings. I know in the US and other countries this isn't the case. But if you are seriously making a lot of money then you might want to consider one of the tax havens, that goes for any investment earnings. Paying less tax is something I have been looking into for years. Originally having a business and paying 20-50% tax on earnings was hard enough. Nowadays with investing its down around 18%. But with sports betting you pay 0% (in the UK at least).
More hands off – It's a lot less time intensive than forex trading. Sports betting is more geared around value for specific odds. However you calculate that value, whether you have a hunch (not recommended) or do statistical analysis and back-test results based on previous data (recommended). Once a model is created this is very hands off. You can simply bet where you see value and leave the results to play out.
'Inside Information' – In other types of trading inside information is illegal. People go to prison for decades for trading with inside information. It is a crime. BUT when it comes to sports betting, it seems the more you know the better. Why punish someone when all they have done is found out a start player isn't playing before the bookies adjust their prices? Or that there is going to be a storm in the middle of a football match, making it much more likely that less points are scored and hence the under total points becomes the best play. But the most important element is that individuals 'tipsters' (I hate that word) can give you plays in return for cash. Now you have to be incredibly careful with these people! BUT if you follow the most reliable tipsters you can make 500% ROI per year and that's no exaggeration!
Sports Betting Cons:
Regulation – There are lots of regulations around where you can place bets. For example in the UK I cannot use Pinnacle or a number of other large sportsbooks. In the USA as previously mentioned I believe you have to pay tax on your winnings too and in some states sports betting is straight up illegal, so check the regulations before you get started.
Low Limits & The dreaded 'exceeds maximum bet' – Unlike forex trading, when you make a bet/trade you are making it with the bookie itself. This means that as your bankroll grows you are more likely to be flagged as a very good sports trader. This means you are more likely to have limits on how much you can bet per event. This depends on the size of the event. For example the maximum bet on the superbowl is over 1 million for almost all sportsbooks. But the maximum bet for a small soccer game in league 2 would probably only be £500 in most places. Bigger events have higher limits as the lines are more carefully calculated, meaning the bookies have a higher degree of confidence and hence will accept larger bets. If you are with a sportsbook or bookie that says 'exceeds maximum bet' for a specific result then it is probably time to move. This means they are on to your smart betting and don't want you to take any money from them!
Conclusion
Personally I love both sports and forex trading. I will never stop one for another and I will be doing them both for years and years to come. But spreading 'risk' and having some diversity is great. Back-testing sports betting strategies to see how much you would have made in a season is very similar to back-testing a forex trading strategy to see if your strategy is profitable. My biggest piece of advice would be don't just rush into any type of trading. Build a strategy. Build your bankroll. Decide your bankroll management strategy. Good luck. Remember to check out our beginner ultimate guide and our free ebook for your forex trading introduction.
Tom is the owner of Elite Forex Trading. A website that provides beginner tips, trainings, reviews and strategies to help newbies get started making money in the forex markets.
The number of Youths joining the Betting wagon has skyrocketed in the recent past. This may be attributed to the crushing unemployment levels and the thirst for quick cash. While I am a firm beleiver in exploting all money making schemes, I am abit hesitant to join the band wagon. True, I ave ‘invested' in sports afew times and lost more than I won but that is a story for another day. Question is, Is there another way for millennial out there to invest their hard earned money apart from Betting.
Forex Trading (FX) is one such alternative investiment opportunityies that not only promises high returns, but also Works. Let us dispense with the definations first. A standard Dictionary defines Forex as a form of Investiment and sports Betting as a form of Gambling. The same dictionary defines Investing as to puting (money) to use, by purchase or expenditure, in something offering profitable returns, especially interest or income. The same dictionary defines 'gamble'as follows: To play at any game of chance for stakes. To stake or risk money, or anything of value, on the outcome of something involving chance; bet; wager.
Both forex trading and sports betting could be really lucrative, and they both have their fair shares of upsides and downsides. However, they remain parallel ventures that are distinctly different from each other. With that in mind, let's now look at the differences between forex trading and sports betting:
a) As a forex trader, how much profit you would make hinges largely on your skills, abilities, and understanding of how everything works in the foreign exchange market. It takes time to master all these, but you will make more profit as you learn more.
Gambling Vs Forex Trading Forex
In sports betting however, your profits are not dependent on your experience or skills. In fact, there are really no skills to master. In reality, your profit depends on factors that you cannot control, such as the morale and performance of the teams you have tipped to win a match.
b) In forex trading, you can opt out of the market when market factors seem unfavorable. This is a good tactic to prevent huge losses. And you can as well enter the market again once market indicators show positive signals. However in sports betting, you cannot opt out of a bet after a match has started (even though you can predict the outcome of a match from the starting tempo sometimes).
So, even if you are seeing signs that you will lose your money, you can no longer opt out of a bet once the match has started or once it has reached half time (depending on the rules laid down by your betting agency).
c) Forex trading is not time bound. You can enter and exit the market at irregular intervals as you wish. Some forex traders buy and sell within few minutes, while others may hold on to their purchase for as long as 24 hours or more.
Gambling Vs Forex Trading Strategy
In retrospect, the time frame for a sports bet deal is just the duration of a match (90 minutes in the case of a soccer match). So you have to wait patiently until after the match to know if you if you will end up with a profit or a loss.
d) Forex trading brings results that are proportionate with your knowledge of market analysis. Highly experienced forex traders hardly lose their funds. And when they do, it's always very minimal.
But in sports betting, shocks abound. That you have been betting for decades doesn't guarantee that you would get it right most of the time. In fact, a newbie can place a bet and win a huge profit, whereas, a 'pro' can place a bet and lose badly. (In forex trading, hardly can a newbie make more than a veteran does).
e) Forex trading requires more technical knowledge than sports betting. A forex trader must have a deep knowledge and understanding of market analysis, market indicators, currency rise and fall trends, price fluctuations, signals and what they mean as well as the mathematical analysis required to make decisions that will most likely bring profit.
While Sports betting only require you to know a bit of recent history, the strength, style of play, and the current form of the teams involved in a match. All these are not technical details, and you can get them within minutes.
f) Forex trading involves buying and selling with spreads, margins, and leverages. (Leveraging is when you forex broker gives you additional funds to trade with, which is usually a fixed multiple of your own capital). While in sports betting, what you put-in is what brings your results. No spreads, no leverage.
g) As a forex trader, your success in forex trading depends largely on your personal skills and knowledge, and your active participation is required. Of course, you need to be actively watching the market and making decisions at the right time while Sports betting doesn't require your active participation. You can place you bet and wait for the results of the match. So, you can win or lose a bet whether or not you watched the match.
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